More reaction to the principle... oh this is just getting to be so wreckless

ok so really?  This is only getting worse:

Trapping and Exposing Lies and Falsehoods
January 8, 2014 By Mark Shea 23 CommentsFresh from denouncing the errors and gutless cowardice of such menaces as Fr. Father Robert Barron and such dangerous men as Karl Keating, Jimmy Akin, Al Kresta and similar wolves in sheep’s clothing serving the Church of Nice, Church Militant TV now leads its flock of highly discerning disciples in the unerring direction of TRVTH by promoting the rock solid science of geocentrism.  What could possibly be smarter and more deeply Catholic than helping raise the stock of people who have endorsed the unimpeachable fact that the Moon Landings were a hoax, that Roosevelt was a Jew, that Jews probably killed JFK, that “The infection of Judaism and Zionism has become the number one enemy for us”, that Jews are “slave masters”, that “it is becoming increasingly difficult to believe that six million Jews were killed in Nazi internment camps.”, that we should “stop blaming it on the nation who excised [the Jews] and start looking at what the Jewish people do to get themselves excised.” and that the Holocaust was that sad period in history when “the Jews turned on the Germans because they got a better deal from someone else.”  Clearly, I think all Real Catholics[TM] will do well to realize that this track record of sound Catholic teaching is so good that an apostolate whose entire mission is to “trap and expose” “lies and falsehoods” covers itself in glory by promoting such people and their work on geocentrism.  If there is anything that no well-formed Catholic can deny, it is that the  entire universe spins around a non-rotational earth every 24 hours and that Science is a gigantic conspiracy to deny that doctrine of the Faith.  Fans of Church Militant TV should wisely continue to say that any criticism of this latest decision to promote such people and their work is entirely due to the fact that CMTV alone–in the entire Church–is unafraid to tell it like it is and the Church of Nice is frightened and trying to shut up the boldest Truthtellers of our time.  Anybody suggesting that this is an epic demonstration of the corrosive effects that indulgence of pride and anger have on common sense only does so because they are jealous of the undeniable truth and beauty of everything CMTV does, due to the fact that they are members of the Church of Nice who hate God, babies, and adorable puppies. And they are also probably Jews.

Keep it classy Mark, and thanks for not engaging in any ad hominems...

oh and just for kicks Mr. Kevin O'Brian of play fame wanted to add a couple things:

• Kevin O'Brien 

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  Of course we will have commenters claiming that there is a distinction between Galileo, Copernicus and Brahe that morons like us can't appreciate, that the geocentrists are not as crazy as the evil "professional Catholic" Mark Shea makes them sound, that in fact it's quite reasonable to consider that the Jews are behind the problems of our society and that those who close their eyes to the latest lights of the conservative mind - new insights such as the demonstrably false claims of ancient science and the 4,000 year old thing called antisemitism - that those who close their eyes to these wonderful insights are the real bigots.

  But the fact is that Voris has been fueling the fires of schism, fanning the flames of the irrational, and feeding the furnace of wrath for years now. His engine keeps chugging along, but the track leads nowhere.

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Stay classy Kevin

With minds trapped in this polar "vortex" (bad puns work at times you know) who needs enemies?  I never understood why they just cant exist side by side... pride on both ends with ad hominems' to boot?

+Seat of Wisdom, Pray for Us!+

+Patron of clowns, Saint Genesius of Rome, Pray for Us!+

Pathetic Scandal...

Ok, so hold up for a second...

The documentary/movie "The Principle" will be released this year and Michael Voris of CMTV had the directors including one Mr./Dr. Robert Sungenis on his program to discuss the film and what they hoped for the project.

To be honest I thought the interview was boring, yet I am looking forward to the movie.

But the real story is how after the airing of the Mic'd Up the other night some in the Catholic blogosphere took it upon themselves to publicly proclaim the director (one Mr. Sungenis) the worst thing since unsliced bread.

You can go to Keatings facebook but I wont provide a link because the way everyone including the normalists (Keating, Shea and Armstrong) act is irrational and purely misguided causing scandal which they pretend to care about avoiding which you can see in my posts about Shea and Armstrong before.

I think its fair to say that Dr. Sungenis takes some odd positions on cosmology, the Jews [whether what he says is odd or bad or just not something people don't want to talk about in pious company is another thing] and the post concilliar pontiffs.  However the way that the normalists try to bash the documentary is pure iconaclism.  They have a box wrapped up nicely in their minds on such topics and are unwilling to part with them, nor will they hear the other side on the topics.  The same probably applies to Mr. Sungenis.  Why the normalists must destroy the movie by bringing up Bob's views on the holocaust is beyond me.  Credibility in the science realm can have many layers.

We know the universe is not heliocentric by its nature (proving Galileo wrong to begin with), the question becomes is it Geocentric or relative per the therm of relativity.  What good does it do to end the conversation by saying Bob thinks the number of Jew's killed during the haulocaust is less then six million?  What difference did it make the Williamson thought we didnt go to the moon or whether again six million Jews were killed during the holocaust in regards the regularization of the SSPX?  When did talk of such things become anathama and against the faith casting one outside the faith?  We wont be codemned for having odd thoughts on the holocaust, its just a mere fancy some use to cause division where the division is not needed from either side.

None.

Whether the universe holds the Earth in a special place or in an indifferent place is important (perhaps not essential)

The Principle is putting forth info that no one outside the top level cosmologists know about because like the normalists most scientists have placed the study of cosmology in a neat box and put it on the shelf with a dont touch at any cost label.

Will the movie talk about theories that might put forth the possibility of Geocentrism, sure but that is not the purpose of the movie so much as looking specifically at the coprenican principle and seeing if its still relevent and holds true with the info we now have

Let the chips fall where they may normalists and trads alike.   PLEASE!

SO you know what im talking about here is the trailer... im going to watch it because it doesnt scare me to hear that Copernicus was wrong with his Theories and I dont subcribe to the Fr. Spitzer S.J. worldview where you can flip flop on issues at leisure (oh boy i just did the same thing the nominalists did)

+JMJ+