Showing posts with label weigel. Show all posts
Showing posts with label weigel. Show all posts

Wednesday, March 30, 2016

Why do evangelicals vote for Trump?

Trump and the most choosen of God, Jerry Falwell
Have you asked Trump or Cruz to come into your heart and be your temporal Lord and savior?

It's humorous to hear the talking heads [As compared to the mute heads?] blather on about the evangelicals supporting the Trump campaign. They are flustered by this support, saying they understand not how such people of faith could back such a bad candidate. [As compared to the the canadian mounte demigod]

Why is this such a wonder?

Evangelicals base their faith not on objective principles, but on the experiences that brought them to a belief in Christ Jesus.  Let us call it the magical joy of find unicorn Jesus. (since Jesus is who they make him out to be, so why not a unicorn?)  Trump is perfect for them because he is a showman. He is going to give the emotionalists their money's worth.  He will tell them what they want to hear, and whose to tell an individual evangelical they are wrong? It's a pick and choose religion, and if Trump is going to promise them something - and thump the erroneous bible he carries - of course they will love him.  He plays to the lowest common denominator, just like their faith plays to the lowest common denominator. And yes, the normalists like Wiegel and Novak do the same when they reject the kingship of Christ... oh you didn't know he did that? Hmmm....




Trump's got what evangelicals crave, he's got flag waving and emotions... maybe even tongues!

Yay go freedom! Religious freedom is soooooo much fun!

Tuesday, October 29, 2013

Cardinal Pell on Fellay and the Council

I've seen Cardinal Pell's third party response to Bp. Fellay of the SSPX and I think he is just doing his job as one of the leaders of the Church in supporting the Holy Father.

The interesting aspect of the interview was the following to me:

Q.  So people like Fellay have completely misread Pope Francis?
A.  Yes, it is a gigantic misreading!  In actual fact, the Lefebvrists – many of them – have misread the situation for decades.   It was to Benedict’s great credit that he tried to reconcile with them, but they didn’t respond. Now the Church today accepts the Second Vatican Council. You don’t have to accept every jot and tittle of it, but it is part of Church’s life now, there’s no way around that

A couple notes,
He states that many of them (in the SSPX, using the term Lefebvrists is going overboard when they never accepted it to begin with) have misread the situation.  Well like Fr. Z said this is being vague... might we say ambiguous so as to not really touch on the issues that are contended.  Like I have said before there is a great resistance by many in the heirarchy to see to it that the SSPX is never accredited with providing direction for the church moving forward.  They may say dumb things but I know of bishops in good standing that have said worse and led the many into greater scandal then even Williamson.
The bolded part of the statement is also important because it states the obvious that novelties are still contested legitamatly by many in good standing with the Church, but there is such a reluctance to really look at the fruits of the council and address the problems not just of interpretation but of what was written in and of itself.  It should be noted its not a liberal problem but also a conservative one with the likes of George Weigle pandering to the "Evangelical Catholic" crowd determined to promote the ecumanism of indifference at nearly any cost (my observation...restrictions apply).
He might have well ended with something like:
"Must protect the legacy of the concilliar church and her pontiffs, must...Must...MUST!!!!  Will anyone take him up on the offer to really address the tittles of contension...we'll see.

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Friday, June 21, 2013

Quick take on George Weigel's Evangelical Catholicism

UMMMMMMMM.....

Other than we are all going to be giddy school girls running about speaking in tongues (saying who knows what since Paul says to stay silent less an interpretor is afforded to you, but I digress). Oh and no maniples or so called trappings, after all the spring time has been so fruitful...somehow...not joking...dont laugh...seriously.  Yes I take the Rorate point of view on George.  This notion that the new evangelization needs a new brand of Catholicism is a sham...how about instead of making up everything as we go we just try going back to what worked and improve it from there...I mean we never tried more extra ecclasial education along with the traditons that come with the liturgy of old... just a thought


Friday, April 19, 2013

The New Evangelization in the Eyes of Catholic groups



I remember watching a Simpson’s episode as a child where Ralph Wiggum receives his report card from the teacher and it reads that he failed English, and Ralphie says “Me fail English that’s unpossible”.  Needless to say after the last couple of days I have been engaged in different thoughts especially after the terrible and despicable bombings occurred.  I find myself going back to current as well as old issues in the church.  Last night I was reading some different blogs and I was honestly frustrated with the way some people are running with this concept of the “New Evangelization”.  Specifically speaking Catholics in the US have different ideas.  There are at least 3 groups of Catholics out there, perhaps 4 but the forth one which I would consider myself part of is like skateboarding on floss so it seems like madness. So how do these four groups go about promoting or destroying JPII’s so called new evangelization?

First is the Progressive delegation of the Church.  There are many figureheads of this wing, to name a few
there are the nuns on the bus led by Sr. [?] Campell from the liberal political lobbying group Network, the LCWR leadership, Fr. James Martin the progressive Jesuit and thousands of priests near you.  Such people will often reference the spirit of Vatican II when confronted for their dissidency, and do their best to poo-poo the magisterium when things don’t go their way.  I find that their idea of the New Evangelization consists of tearing down anything traditionally Catholic is favor of any form of ecumenism.  Such people claim that if the Church is to ever be relevant we must have women priests, allow the adulterous to receive Holy Communion, give full acceptance to same sex attracted individuals in all their actions, demand that the government be our caretakers for life and create a decentralized leadership more open to apostolic collegiality.  If we do this, they say, people will come to love us and want to be Catholic because we are thus open to all truly; finally we would be an actual Catholic Church.

The second group is generally referred to as the conservative Catholics, some also refer to them as Neo-Cons in the church.  You might be familiar with the term RINO after the last few elections me

aning that they are Republican in name only.  The latter is not a perfect analogy, but for this I think it serves a purpose.  This groups figureheads include the likes of George Weigle, the late Fr. Richard Nuehouse, many EWTN personalities, many bishops since the JPII era like Archbishop Dolan, Chaput, Wuerl and so forth.  This group of people is not to be seen as against the faith like the progressives, but they should concern us because all too often they don’t actively engage problems with the necessary zeal.  They are also concerning because they delve into a strict heresy from time to time called Americanism.  They will often be on the front lines defending what they call “Americas First and greatest Freedom”, that is the freedom of religion. It seems to be that this group sees the new evangelization as the new spring time for the church were we show love and mercy, only compromising certain disciplines to create an easier to stomach face of the Church, a Catholic-protestant wing persay, that many not be specifically heretical but dance on the edge of indifference and modernism specifically.  It is my opinion that this is the most troubling of the groups because the progressives don’t hide their agenda anymore because they have become prideful.  These Neo-cons are like Wolves in sheeps clothing, whether knowingly or not they are a greater danger than the progressives because they keep alive the Jansinist heresy in different shapes.

The third group is generally referred to as the Tradtionalists with a capital T.  Such people are not
SedeVacantists nor SSPX for both of those groups are either not Catholic or they are canonically irregular.  These people do find themselves on the edge of this abyss however and include the likes of Robert Sungenis, Fr. Michael Rodriguez and others.  To be sure, and I want to make this clear, these people are not as bad as either the progessives or the Neo Cons, but they tend to take things a step too far and try to read all intentions as being wrong in themselves.  It is the traditionalist view that the New Evangelization is nothing more than a sticker campaign to distract people from all the problems the church faces. 

The last group which I generally find myself in is the traditionally oriented Catholics.   Such other people
would include Fr. Z, Michael Voris, Louie Verrecchio, Patrick Madrid, Pat Arnold, and so forth.  We tend to love all of the Catholic faith and really wish to promote more traditional practices within the churches life.  We are also very focused on routing out heresy within the church, but are conscience to the problems of overt traditionalism like the near denial of VII or overstating the role of disaplines without the context.  John Zimack who is a fantastic writer for the National Catholic Register and an author of a number of great books was on churchmilitants Mic’d Up show a while back and kind of attacked the “New Evangelization” as something without a a basic underpinning.  It does seem like a bumper sticker campaign as well to us, but we do want to get out and build the church.  Our concern is not the numbers like the neo-cons and progressives but the quality of the conversion to Christ.  We are focused on teaching the whole faith, unfiltered truth of the faith and demanding a full commitment to Holy Mother Church.  Perhaps the greatest way to look at our position is what Fulton Sheen would say, “The Catholic faith is like a Lion, just uncage it and it will do the rest”. 

So what is the New Evangelization, and how should we go about it?  The NE is just the attempt to rechristianize the West after Protestantism has realized its ultimate end.  We should not expect that the new evangelization will yield grand fruit in terms of the amount of people its draws in, but we should expect that those drawn in by the no holds barred traditional approach will be of high quality.  IT reminds me of the early church, there was only 12, but from those zealous 12 Christendom was born. 
















+JMJ+