Saturday, January 30, 2016

Final thoughts on the Star Wars Mass

What a headache. I should leave it at that and move on from this craziness, but here it goes...

This is indeed a sad ordeal that could have been avoided with proper catechesis.  The monsignor at the parish claims that this is no big deal, the parishioners are upset and letting it be known that this is an every week sort of thing and that bloggers are just looking for hits.  Now I'm not saying I didn't think this would not eventually draw hits, but primarily we all know in order to stop a problem the problem needs to be made known, even by some jerk Pharisee 873 miles away in the Cream City.

 I don't think its worth while to attack the defenders like Deacon Kandra, the parishioners or even the monsignor, its just a waste of time. When it comes down to it what is happening is a matter of some or even many of our brothers and sisters in the faith understanding the Mass in its purpose and application.

I'm not against the wearing of costumes to Holy Mass for instance on All Saints day.  Even at St. Stans children dress up as the saints, but I do think it obvious that a line is being crossed when you profane something by equating the secular gimmicks with the ancient faith. Are these costumes going to evoke love of God like in how saintly garb may remind us? 

The dumbing down of the liturgy is a concern. One of the parishioners thought it ok because it would one day lead the children to continue going to Mass if now we make it fun for them. Haven't the gimmicks all been tried to retain the youth?  What are the fruits of this event Catholicism? I think its a worthwhile question to examine how these innovations effect the thinking of the faithful.  To me if we don't take things seriously from the beginning why should they take it seriously later.  If its a matter of entertainment they will run to the heretical sects of Protestantism, they are good at entertaining and warm feelings.

Before 1963 there was no such thing as children's Mass or a life teen Mass.  What is the focus, are we not saying that the focus of these things is on the people, and the glory of God must bend its knee to be compatible with the days norms? Children are not as dumb as some seem to think.  Considering over half of the parishioners at St. Stans are under 30, and the back 10 pews are full of children, there is no need for a children's mass because that is not what Mass is about.  Even having the choir behind the Altar (I'm thinking of you St. Als) starts to confuse the purpose of why Mass is said, not to entertain but to bring about the graces that now, as then, flow from the Holy Sacrifice that is once and for all offered once again upon the altar.

I get it that the intentions to keep the children excited are genuine and even praise worthy, but time and place.  Have the star wars party after Mass, but don't profane this sacred rite of the church with the mundane.  If you want to use star wars in your homily do so, but you don't need to make a whole gimmick to surround it.  What religion are we taking part in? Do we know where we are when the consecration takes place? Where is our focus? Have we asked if this action will glorify God before we make the decision to go ahead with it? Good intentions don't necessarily equate to prudent actions.

And just a note to those that are upset and taking it out on Mr. Hitchborn that this has gone viral, perhaps there is a reason that is worth looking into.  Mr. Hitchborn and the rest of us don't hate you and don't want to be the rain on your sunny day, but it is incumbent upon us to make it clear that there is something seriously going wrong here, whether the intentions are good or not.  Please realize this before you want to yell at us for not being understanding or for "trolling" your parish.  We desire one thing, the glorification of God, which can be had objectively.  Below I have posted a video from Michael Davies which I do hope will bring to you a greater understanding of what Mass is.

May God bless your Parish and Pastor

James Savonarola


Friday, January 29, 2016

VHE 5: Recent interviews of Alice Von Hildebrand

So Alice von Hildebrand has been busy over the last month or so... so i figured it was time to share some of her endevors with anyone intersted.

A quick thank you to Eric Metaxas for having her for a series of 3 interviews beginning this Tuesday. They are all worth you time:






When Mr. Metaxas airs the 3rd part of the interview (including their disagreement over Luther's revolt) I will post it here as well

Also, Michael Voris of Church Militant did a series of interviews with this good lady back in December which were just released.  Here are a few snippets they released from the interviews, but it is worth getting a free 15 day trial to listen to the totality of the interviews










Oh and Dr. John Rao recently made an appeal to support the Roman Forum which was in part begun with the help of professor Dietrich von Hildebrand.  You can read it HERE


Wednesday, January 27, 2016

Update 4: Parish Priest responds Update 3: Clarification Update 2: Update: A Star Wars Mass in Brooklyn... I kid you not

Update 4: The Parish priest provides context. I think its really just a matter of being clueless at this point about what the Mass is.  Kids in the sanctuary, processing with father for no liturgical purpose, wearing secular costumes having nothing to do with the life of the Church.  But I'm just a buzz kill here.  Hey, if this is what it takes to keep those kids coming back in their teens... well then what Church are we a part of again?



Allow me to provide some clarification as it pertains to what is being called the “Star Wars Mass”.At the parish of...
Posted by Msgr Jamie Gigantiello on Friday, January 29, 2016


Update 3: A parishioner [?] of the Church responded to the Lepanto story as can be seen below. And as a side note at St. Stans we too allow children to dress as saints on all saints day, but to dress as star wars characters is another thing (at least to me, but to each his own I guess):






Update 2: Deacon Kandra accuses us of jumping to conclusions.  But hey, some people would say he was couragous in defending sacralidge. Hitchborn and Voris already responded to this.  Read the whole of it HERE




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Here is the confirmation and link for the Parish:

http://saintbernardbrooklyn.com/index.php/calendar

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Hat tip to Ben Yanke of NLM on this one.  They deleted it from the Brooklyn diocese facebook account once people started looking into it.  I dont know if it is still on or not, but Lord willing they will reconsider.



A long time ago, in a galaxy far far away...Sacrilege Wars!Update: The Diocese of Brooklyn now deleted the post. But...
Posted by Ben Yanke on Tuesday, January 26, 2016



Monday, January 25, 2016

Fr. Paul Nicholson on Savonarola and troubles in the Church

It's an oddity, but since people writing about Savonarola is rare I just wanted to put it out there for those interested.

Thanks Father Nicholson





+JMJ+

Thursday, January 21, 2016

KTMT: Part I Sex and the Church: The March for Life bows to protestants

These videos are not apologetics but appeals to the people putting on the March to tighten the reigns before the whole thing falls apart because of indifference to fundimental issues, the first of which being the protestant error of welcoming contraception

Voris does a great job in both so I wont comment further.  The next part of the series will focus on the apologetical approaches to the issue of contraception




Wednesday, January 20, 2016

Yeah but... acting like a sede

Ok so, first it is worth listening to Mike Church's radio show in the morning, however if you stream it on Youtube you will notice some oddities from the commentators.  The loud ones are part of the SSPX resistance.  (aka the Williamson split off)
One of them said that one day the popes after the council will be recognized as anti-popes, this after he confirmed that Paul VI was a valid Pope.  Then when called on it he said he didn't have to take a postilion on sedevacantism because other saints have said similar things.

Sure, St. Vincent Ferrer made comments similar, but this was also before Vatican I which defined the perpetuity of the Petrine office.

Note to the resistance "Step your game up"